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Here are some tasks you can do:
  • Other:
    • Fix template parameters. Note that some articles have the parameter class in the template {{WPDATABASE|class=|importance=}} listed as rating= instead of class=. I have fixed several but there may be others. One place to look: Category:Unassessed Database articles which yielded at least one: Talk:Object database MeekMark (talk) 16:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Assess currently unassessed articles and provide notes for areas of improvement on talk pages. You can find a list of unassessed articles at: Category:Unassessed Database articles SqlPac (talk) 04:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

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Started

Put a few basic templates together. Will add a todo list later. Need to start assessing articles. SqlPac 18:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Portal, etc.

Have requested help in setting up a portal. Started marking articles with the WikiProject Database template. I have verified there are over 100 articles that should be added to the project, and over 50 that should be stubbed at this point. SqlPac 04:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Rename

Shouldn't this be called "WikiProject Databases"? "WikiProject Database" sounds like a database about wikiprojects, while the other sounds like a wikiproject about databases, IMO. -- -- intgr #%@! 16:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I recommend the move also. Aquarius • talk 17:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree. I didn't realize it wasn't in parallel construction with other projects like WikiProject Dogs. Makes sense to me. I'm not familiar with moves though. Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks. SqlPac 05:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
sqlpac you are a normalizer. I'll bet you know the answer by heart, when your client asks, "Why is the table called CUSTOMER when there are many customers in that table? Shouldn't it be called CUSTOMERS?" // Brick Thrower 07:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 ;-) SqlPac 01:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

POLICY DEBATE: Use of source code and other examples in articles

Someone started a policy debate concerning the use of source code in articles, that might directly impact several Database articles. See below for details:

I have opened a debate on the use of source code and other examples in Wikipedia articles. It seems that many pieces of example source code etc. currently in Wikipedia violate Wikipedia policy, so we need to either clarify or change the situation. Depending on the result of the discussion, this may result in a number of source code examples being summarily removed from computing articles!

Please reply there, not here, if you wish to contribute.—greenrd 10:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.SqlPac 15:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

What to include

I found this project during a lull in a class I'm taking. I identified a few articles and added the project template. Should this project include public databases (like IMDB)? I think not, but haven't given it enough thought to be adamant. I do believe that the project should include articles on database systems (like ORACLE, IDMS).

How do I discover which articles are already included in the project? Is there a page that automatically lists all articles involved?

Should the included articles be tagged with the WikiProject Databases Category?

Finally, I need to learn more about wikiprojects and try to remember my Wikipedia logon.

Indeed, the wikiproject is about database software and infrastructure rather than specific databases. (The connection from "databases" -> "database software" seems so natural when you're a programmer that I hadn't even realized there is a different interpretation.)
You can see articles that already have the wikiproject banner at Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:WikiProject Database. Alternatively, the Category:Databases category tree is probably more up to date about articles that exist in Wikipedia. -- intgr [talk] 20:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Importance in template

After reviewing Wikipedia:WikiProject Databases/Assessment I believe that a lot of articles are currently mis-categorized or are at least inconsistent. Some database products are Category:Mid-importance Database articles such as IBM DB2, while IBM Informix and Oracle database is considered Category:Top-importance_Database_articles. Given the criteria noted in the assessment article, I propose no database product be considered "Top" importance. Further, I feel that IBM DB2 is a far more significant product in terms of history, contributions, etc. than Informix. I am going to put

  • From Top: IBM Informix to Mid, PostgreSQL to Mid; Oracle database to High, MySQL to High.
  • From High to Low: (These articles are on companies providing database products; not terribly important): Teradata, Sybase, Oracle Corporation
  • From Mid to High: IBM DB2

MeekMark (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Featured article review started

Btrieve has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--Jayron32.talk.contribs 21:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Btrieve has achieved featured article status. Congratulations guys! Excellent work! SqlPac (talk) 04:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Several articles added to project

Several unassessed articles have been added to this project, mostly data warehousing and business intelligence articles. A lot of these articles have been designated as having problems with neutrality, confusing content, and citations and references. Some examples of high visibility articles that have been added include Extract, transform, load, Data mart, Star schema, and a lot more.

Most of these articles are currently unassessed by this project. If you have a few spare minutes why not pick an article or two, give it the quick once over and help us assess them and jot a few quick notes for improvement?

It would also be a huge help if we could get some Business intelligence and Data warehousing subject matter experts, or anyone else with something to say, involved to help clean these articles up. Thanks everyone! SqlPac (talk) 04:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Roll back into Wikiproject CS

I propose that this WikiProject be rolled back into Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science as a task force. There doesn't seem to be a necessary critical mass of participants here, which means that related articles are missing out on project infrastructure. This project itself does not appear to have gotten much done in terms of organizing or improving articles -- which is not a judgment against the participants, but I think those articles could receive more of the attention they deserve if there were more eyes on them. Ham Pastrami (talk) 06:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Support. Hardly any activity here. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 04:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

  • The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
  • The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
  • A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 22:01, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Database

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Uncertain data up for deletion

There are some papers on databases with uncertain data, so I figured someone here may improve the article. VG 22:39, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Logical data model, Logical schema and Semantic data model

Hi, I wonder if you guys could take a look at these three articles. I wonder if the subjects of these articles are one and the same or if they are different. I just made a proposal to merge them in the Logical data model article, see Talk:Logical data model. But I am not so sure here. Thanks. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 00:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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